What I earned at Condé Nast far exceeds the value of any unlimited Metro Card, living stipend, or hourly wage they could have given me.
So you can chalk up face time with editors, writers, researchers, and stylists, who you are now separated from by one degree to whatever the hourly wage comes out to be, based on your small stipend, or you can accept the experience for its face value: priceless.
Furthering the debate over Condé Nast shutting down their intern program, this pre-med student interned at a magazine company. Nonetheless, she does make a point, I too don’t have anything to regret with my unpaid internship experience. But something should be done.
14:46 // 4 months ago
Condé Nast has decided to discontinue its internship program starting in 2014, WWD has learned. The end of the program comes after the publisher was sued this summer by two former interns who claimed they were paid below the minimum wage during internships at W and The New Yorker.
Condé is just one of several media companies facing similar litigation from summer interns. In February 2012, a former intern at Hearst’s Harper’s Bazaar sued, claiming the magazine violated minimum wage and overtime laws. A judge threw out the case, but the intern appealed and the suit remains unresolved. In another case that was settled in June, two interns who worked for Fox Searchlight successfully sued the studio for similar reasons.
For a bit more context on the situation, we suggest referring back to Ernie’s post on the Black Swan unpaid intern case, which is still winding its way through the court system as we speak.
18:30 // 4 months ago
whistlesays says: Ernie! I have so much to say! First - LOVE what you do on Short Form Blog. I get a lot of news from your blog alone sometimes. Second - I had no idea you're MSU alum and TBG alum! I just finished up as Editor in Chief this past year. Thanks for making that website in 2004! Third - love your piece on Medium. Finding paid work is such a huge issue that I'm right in the middle of. Just graduated, moving w/out a job, terrified. But I still have hope! Thanks for bringing up this subject - so needed.
Hey there! Great to hear from you. You know, here’s the thing that was great about The Big Green. When it launched, it was built essentially as a way to give folks who couldn’t get on at the SNews a chance to build bylines. And it worked! We built a pretty good foundation for it—Beth Desy had the foresight to launch it, but Sarah Hunko really laid the foundation to make it thrive and I helped on the design front.
The reason I wrote what I did is that I know it was a scary time for me as a student to not be sure if I’d be able to turn what I did into a career. But fortunately I was able. The best advice I can give is creativity, tenacity, and a willingness to stick your neck out there. SFB started as an effort to push my creative efforts out there, and it worked! For folks looking for a job, something like SFB is what I’d recommend. Not necessarily as a replacement for a job, but as a way to show that you’re a self-starter and can build (and more importantly, finish) things.
Thanks for the kind words about SFB and the Medium piece. It was nice to look back on those days even if they weren’t easy. Please let me know how things are going, and thanks for letting me know TBG was left in good hands!
Take it easy! :) —Ernie @ SFB
EDIT: I meant this to be a private response, but screw it, the advice is good. :)
0:42 // 8 months ago
I won’t sugar-coat it. That my foot crossed the threshold into the crease of the door is pretty amazing, and I’m still, nine years later, sort of amazed it happened.
Following up on the ProPublica Kickstarter regarding unpaid internships I pointed out last night, I wrote a post on Medium about how a paid job post-graduation was a major lifeline career-wise—and if that job was an unpaid internship instead, how it might not have actually happened. — Ernie @ SFB
12:32 // 8 months ago